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Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 09:18 PM
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Posted By duosport
Well like I said early on. All of what we are...

Well like I said early on. All of what we are talking about are actually motorcycles. Every single one. The other classifications we are assigning are sub catagories of motorcycles. The early...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 07:34 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Its a bicycle with an engine.

Its a bicycle with an engine.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 06:31 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
See the states have screwed up these terms. Some...

See the states have screwed up these terms. Some states are calling all 2 wheeled vehicles that have 49cc engines, a mopeds. It is incorrect. Just because the states have messed up their...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 02:46 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
I think at higher speeds the 16" wheels are a...

I think at higher speeds the 16" wheels are a very good thing.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 12:40 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
If the goal is to go really fast then why not buy...

If the goal is to go really fast then why not buy a motorcycle? To each his own of course but I am not interested in going 60 mph on small scooter wheels.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-06-2013, 12:32 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
It has pedals. Does that not automatically make...

It has pedals. Does that not automatically make it a moped? Motor - Pedal = Moped right?

The weird Tomos example has some styling details that make it look like motorcycle or a scooter but at...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 11:36 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Hi Nothing is true on the internet unless there is a...

Nothing is true on the internet unless there is a photo. :)
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 07:03 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Frankly that is made up state by state stuff. If...

Frankly that is made up state by state stuff. If a 2 wheeler has a floor board and a 49cc engine...its a scooter. The states incorrectly use the term "moped".
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 06:47 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
That is about as mixed up as it gets. It is hard...

That is about as mixed up as it gets. It is hard to ignore the fact that it has pedals so how could one not call it a moped?
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 05:47 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
I agree it is a small displacement motorcycle. ...

I agree it is a small displacement motorcycle. For my money it is the foot pegs that makes it a bike rather than a scooter. Scooters have a floor board.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 02:49 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
I think most people here would call that a mini...

I think most people here would call that a mini bike or a mini trail bike.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 10:01 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
In reality all things including 50cc are...

In reality all things including 50cc are motorcycles. A scooter is a sub class of motorcycle. I think the state definitions are not correct because there are tons of 150cc scooters out there that...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 09:56 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
For example here is a 110cc no ped available with...

For example here is a 110cc no ped available with a 4 speed transmission. Also available in a 49cc.

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/5798/wf110mi.jpg
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-05-2013, 09:44 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
I kind of think how the states define it is not...

I kind of think how the states define it is not relevent to it because California for example would call a 150 scooter a motorcycle when clearly we would define it as a scooter. The states are just...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 09:48 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Well sure as I do. But the OP wants to name...

Well sure as I do. But the OP wants to name scooters with gears so defining what is and is not a scooter is neccessary in order to add to the list. How about the Honda Express? I define it as a...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 08:46 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
But the Passport has a frame mounted engine and...

But the Passport has a frame mounted engine and no floorboard but rather has foot pegs. I believe it is considered a motorcycle. But we do agree they are cool.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 08:33 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
So how about this Honda Passport then? One sits...

So how about this Honda Passport then? One sits on this vehicle rather than straddle.

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/7084/passport001.jpg
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 08:05 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Well I think the fact is you are correct. It is...

Well I think the fact is you are correct. It is the step through design that is the predominent feature of what defines a scooter. Probably more accurately it would probably be the foot platform...
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 07:46 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
Well if one is going to get very technical all...

Well if one is going to get very technical all scooters are motorcycles.
Forum: General Scooter Discussion 02-04-2013, 07:24 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 78,570
Posted By duosport
The Honda Passport is only 70cc has a scooter...

The Honda Passport is only 70cc has a scooter step through design but has foot pegs. It is a semi automatic three speed with a shift pedal but no clutch. Even the chain for the drive is in a...
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