List of manual geared scooters

[inuyasha]

Originally Posted by duosport

If the goal is to go really fast then why not buy a motorcycle? To each his own of course but I am not interested in going 60 mph on small scooter wheels.

Hi

And ive hit a high of 63 mph on my Aprilia Sr 50 R Factory and at those speeds she rock steady

Sr 50 top speed by inuyasha50, on Flickr
Take care and ride safely
Yours Hank

[jeepsteve92xj]

A 125cc scooter, no peddles, and it is a shifty.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...-left-side.jpg

Review
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...hs-madass-125/

[inuyasha]

Originally Posted by jeepsteve92xj

A 125cc scooter, no peddles, and it is a shifty.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...-left-side.jpg

Review
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...hs-madass-125/

Hi
To me the Madass is not a scoot but a small motorcycle

Sachs-MadAss-125-4 by inuyasha50, on Flickr
They are one of my fav motorbikes
Take care and ride safely
Yours Hank

[jeepsteve92xj]

Originally Posted by duosport

If the goal is to go really fast then why not buy a motorcycle? To each his own of course but I am not interested in going 60 mph on small scooter wheels.

My Xingyue has 16" wheels, nice and stable. Just 8hp.
The Suzuki Sixteen and the Honda SH150i are very similar, but of course Japanese, with twice the HP and a much more reliable 80mpg or better

The Stella is rated up to 140mpg if your really nice to it. But small wheels.

I'd like to get an easy 65mph, rather than WOT to hold just over 50mph. Working on it.

[jeepsteve92xj]

The defining lines are blurry. With peddles = moped, small motor or not.

the states mostly require MC license for 50cc and up.
In other countries, MC license is on a graduated system, beginning with maybe a 250 for a starter bike for some amount of time and / or distance, then a 350 or 400...
In France I was reading they have electronic governors for things like 1200cc Halreys when the operator isnt yet qualified for that much power. The magic box limits the power until they graduate to the next level, then whoever it is that handles the box will change the settings. The box is supposed to be tamper proof.
A guy in my MC safety class had never ever been on any motorcycle before, but decoded to pop into the local 'Bussa dealer and buy one. nothing like Jumping onto 180hp with zero experience. I think graduated licensing is a good idea.

Another nice thing on the scooters is that I can stop at the store and pick up a 25bl bag of kitty litter and carry it on the floor between my feet. On a motorcycle, not so easy without a box or big saddle bags.

[duosport]

Originally Posted by jeepsteve92xj

My Xingyue has 16" wheels, nice and stable. Just 8hp.
The Suzuki Sixteen and the Honda SH150i are very similar, but of course Japanese, with twice the HP and a much more reliable 80mpg or better

The Stella is rated up to 140mpg if your really nice to it. But small wheels.

I'd like to get an easy 65mph, rather than WOT to hold just over 50mph. Working on it.

I think at higher speeds the 16" wheels are a very good thing.

[jeepsteve92xj]

For shore! My top speed run down a looooooong hill with a still tail wind got me 63MPH GPS, without a shake or anything sketchy. I was at nearly 8000RPM.

I chose the Xingyue for a couple reasons - 16" wheels, and it had already been registered in WI, so I wasn't going to have any problems. WI roads are rough. On a city ride back in August, I felt like I was getting beat up, so I can imagine how the small wheel scooters were feeling.

[WarrenS]

When all else fails I just look at it and call it as I see it. The one with pedals is a moped although a very decked out one. What the state licenses them as is set by their own rules. One time I wanted to get an electric motor to power a bicycle. I asked if it would be classed as a moped and was told no. It would be a motor powered bicycle. I would have to have it individually inspected and they would decide if it was road worthy or not. I gave up.

[prodigit]

Originally Posted by duosport

It has pedals. Does that not automatically make it a moped? Motor - Pedal = Moped right?

Not if it goes faster than 20/30MPH, or has more than 2BHP, or more than 49cc.

[prodigit]

Originally Posted by inuyasha

Hi
To me the Madass is not a scoot but a small motorcycle

+1;
It's in line with the first 3 or 5 chinese DAX clones on this page (minus the Camino clone (16in wheels) on number four):
http://www.superiorpowersports.com/category_s/136.htm

[duosport]

Originally Posted by prodigit

Not if it goes faster than 20/30MPH, or has more than 2BHP, or more than 49cc.

See the states have screwed up these terms. Some states are calling all 2 wheeled vehicles that have 49cc engines, a mopeds. It is incorrect. Just because the states have messed up their terminology is no reason for logical people to follow suit.

[inuyasha]

Hi
I got a good one for you guys
What would you call my Schwinn?, she has a Grubee 66/80 cc slant angle fire 2t engine 38 tooth main gear with a top speed of 40 mph she has a lttle more topend but im not very comfortable going any faster until i hook up the disc brake system, thats the next upgrade in the wings

motor bike8 by inuyasha50, on Flickr
Take care asnd ride safely
Yours Hank

[duosport]

Its a bicycle with an engine.

[inuyasha]

Originally Posted by duosport

Its a bicycle with an engine.

Hi
Ok so what do you feel these should be called
http://www.motorcycle.com/events/the...cle-45982.html
Take care and ride safely
Yours Hank

[duosport]

Originally Posted by inuyasha

Hi
Ok so what do you feel these should be called
http://www.motorcycle.com/events/the...cle-45982.html
Take care and ride safely
Yours Hank

Well like I said early on. All of what we are talking about are actually motorcycles. Every single one. The other classifications we are assigning are sub catagories of motorcycles. The early motorcycles are actually motorized bicycles on the order of your motorized bicycle.