Bargain Commuter Scooters

[kz1000st]

I don't usually Hawk a brand of scooters, although I like Bintelli, but Lance is hitting a home run with their 200cc line.

http://www.lancepowersports.com/models/index.html

Each of the 200cc scooters are capable of 65 mph+ which puts them in the daily commuter realm. At that speeds they are Freeway capable, air cooled for simplicity and fuel injected for economy. Built by SYM you also know they're reliable.

I'm posting this for the non-members who may be looking for recommendations. In comparison to $3500 plus Japanese 150cc scooters and the wildly expensive $5000 Vespa 155cc scooters, these are are an epic bargain.

[wheelbender6]

Those look great. I'm curious how Lance/Sym can achieve 65mph while Genuine and Kymco can only wring 60mph from 170ish Cc engines. Perhaps the Sym revs higher to reach the higher top speed.

[wheelbender6]

Looks like the Sym Revs to 7500rpm. The Genuine Buddy revs to only 7000rpm. The Kymco is right in the middle at 7250rpm.

[DisillusionedPrepper]

There could be several factors involved. Compression ratio, CVT set up, Carb. jetting, final gear ratio, ect.

I generally gain 5-10 MPH on any scooter by tuning these things.

[Oldgunner]

KZ1000st;
From another southern tier guy..new to scoots. Although I would rather not ride on an interstate, perhaps I shall if a 1 mile exit to exit will save me 20 miles of riding.
So, here's my question... Here in NY (the vampire state) what is the minimum scooter to travel legally on the interstate highways, such as 86 (the old rt 17)?

[DisillusionedPrepper]

Hi Gunner,
I'm a transplanted Long Islander, and rode there for 30 some years.
Scooters are considered as "Limited use motorcycles", and divided into 4 classes.

"C" is any motorized bike under 20 MPH
"B" is 20-30 MPH
"A" is 30-40 MPH

Any scooter capable of speeds over 40 MPH are registered as motorcycles in N.Y..
So while you can argue your ticket (riding a class "A" on a NY interstate) they are not allowed due to their limited use registration.
Class "A" would include almost all CVT controlled 50cc machines but some manual transmission controlled bikes are allowed.
Some 125cc CVT controlled bikes are allowed (if your nads are up to it, and it is registered correctly).
All 150cc + bikes are allowed if registered correctly as a motorcycle.
250cc+ are considered as motorcycles

[kz1000st]

"Here in NY (the vampire state) what is the minimum scooter to travel legally on the interstate highways, such as 86 (the old rt 17)?"

That question involves many factors. I won't lie. I have a 50cc motorcycle that I took on Rt. 17. It's capable of 50 mph on level ground. Was I watching my rear view mirrors the whole time? Absolutely. Plus I was on a section with a 55 mph speed limit. Would I do that all the way to Horseheads? No way. Parts are 65 mph and wide open.

There are many 200cc scooters capable of riding on a 65 mph road, but to be safe you should have at least 250cc under you.