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02-11-2024, 11:51 AM | #31 |
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I never verified the 2000 valve check with my local dealer concerning the PCX. My wife said if that's true then Honda is having some assembly issues and to stay far away for one. We've owned many Honda scooters and have never had to mess with valves in the past. I'll try to drop in my local dealer and verify this crazy rumor and report back.
Now my Buddy 125 gets ridden hard but I baby it and stay on top of all services. I did the initial valve check around 700 miles (in spec) and checked them over the weekend and they were still in spec at 6000 miles. My old Buddy 125 would need the exhaust side adjusted as it was always a tad tight at every check but it was never out enough to cause any issues. I've seen both cheap China (Ice Bear) and "premium" brand scooters need equal valve adjustments, both tight or loose, so just do the service when suggested if the initial checks are out of spec. If the initial checks are good I tend to get a bit lazy. |
02-13-2024, 03:36 PM | #32 |
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This is his story. I watch his videos all the time to see if or when he has a problem. So far very few. BTW that kilometer reading translates to 4200 miles in 9 months. Not bad for a cheap Chinese scooter.
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02-15-2024, 04:41 PM | #33 |
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
02-18-2024, 05:23 PM | #34 |
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A little long but pretty funny.
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
02-22-2024, 02:06 PM | #35 |
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
02-24-2024, 05:21 PM | #36 |
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I used to be into old Chevy cars from the 60's. At almost every car show someone would have a Harley Topper. They are Italian made if I recall and really cool in person. Cushman scooters and Mustang "mini" motorcycles also made a showing. That Topper link/find was awesome! Thanks for linking.
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02-26-2024, 12:55 PM | #37 | |
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It's why I'm doing it. I'd like to think these links have something for a lot of people.
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02-26-2024, 12:56 PM | #38 |
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I would love to see how they enforce this law.
https://www.rideapart.com/news/70904...islation-laws/
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
02-27-2024, 05:54 PM | #39 |
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Do you want a 300cc scooter at 150cc prices? This from the owners of Benelli and QJ Motors.
https://powersportsbusiness.com/late...erican-market/
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
02-28-2024, 08:46 AM | #40 |
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We had a Keeway dealer when scooters first made a comeback. Genuine was still PGO, that's how long ago it was! Keeway made some good stuff back then. Plastics that weren't brittle, metal didn't corrode after one riding season and the seats had nice thick vinyl. And they were reliable. But no one carries them anymore. Shame as I would like to see that new 300cc in person.
Right now Italica is the new brand being sold in my area. Bintelli as well (remember, I almost bought a Scorch 150cc for a commuter) and obviously Tao Tao and Ice Bear. I don't care for the last 2 brands but if you stay on top of one they are doable. So that's what is dominating my roads right now. It seems most scooter sales are based on lowest price possible around here. Not a bad thing if the quality is there. |
02-28-2024, 10:50 AM | #41 | |
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And yes, I heard back in the dark ages around 2008 that Keeway builds good stuff. The parent company, Geely, is a huge company with vast resources so they should have a handle on quality. Read on to see how big. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
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02-28-2024, 01:15 PM | #42 | |
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I was told my "credibility fell off a cliff" on that certain Italian scooter forum because I dared to say a QJ Motor LTR 150 was a scooter worth owning. These QJ scooters, like the Hanway Royal Alloy 300, are a different breed than the Tao Tao, Shanghai Shenke's of the past. Geely is a much bigger company than the dirt floor factory scooters imported before this.
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
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02-29-2024, 09:01 AM | #43 |
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Ducati was still building motorcycles on dirt floors before being bought-out in the early 2000's. Those certain Italian owners are the same people who purchase Prada and other fashion icons. Give me a decent pair of Wrangler jeans and cheap t-shirts and I'm fine! Vans shoes did drop in quality over the years and are no longer worth the money but I starting wearing J&M shoes because they're comfy and last a long time.
Concerning that Italian brand its only as good as the mechanics that fix them. My semi-local Piaggio dealer has a terrible service side. They just wanna throw parts at a problem because no one knows how to read the P.A.D.S. diagnostics computer. Then they do sloppy work on top of everything. I still go on that forum and its always "Scooter won't start." because the chip reader for the key dies or "Check engine light is on." for any number of reasons. Vespa scooters have gotten to complicated in my opinion. I want a Royal Alloy 300. I'm still trying to find out who makes the motor for them. The fact that they have had them in England for awhile, and they flog any and all scooters there, and the RA300 has held up is a good sign. I use my scooters for main transportation. Roughly 35 miles a day in all weather and temps. I do chicken out if it snows though! Reliability is of utmost importance. |
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What I also do know is that a Royal Alloy 300 finished the 2023 Scooter Cannonball while a whole bunch of 300 Vespas didn't. Take from that what you will. I would think a Genuine dealer would be more reliable given the reputation of their scooters.
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
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03-01-2024, 02:00 PM | #45 |
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2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting. |
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