...A general info question

Oldgunner · 01-19-2017, 04:30 PM

Does the fact of three wheels in place of two affect the performance, either acceleration or top speed, of a 50cc scooter? How about a 150cc?

DisillusionedPrepper · 01-19-2017, 07:56 PM

There are a couple of 150cc trike conversions on Kymco forum. Not much in technical info tho.
As I remember the owners were not mechanically inclined so the extent of the threads were more of a review, and links to the companies that did the conversions.

To directly answer your question, yes... Gearing has to be raised to gain back acceleration. That as you can guess does take a few MPH off the top end.

Another option to consider would be a sidecar rig. These are a much less invasive conversion.

Irish · 01-20-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldgunner

Does the fact of three wheels in place of two affect the performance, either acceleration or top speed, of a 50cc scooter? How about a 150cc?

That's hard for me to say because I have a 1200 eng but I have a DMC conversion. You can find their website by typing DMC on your computer. I don't know if they have anything for your bike but I can tell you that it's a very nice setup. As far as acceleration , mine has plenty!

Irish

DisillusionedPrepper · 01-20-2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish

That's hard for me to say because I have a 1200 eng but I have a DMC conversion. You can find their website by typing DMC on your computer. I don't know if they have anything for your bike but I can tell you that it's a very nice setup. As far as acceleration , mine has plenty!

Irish

So. Get yourself 24, QMB139's. Hook them up in tandem or just in a giant pile, and you'll make out as well as Irish.

I just can't stop myself...

wheelbender6 · 01-22-2017, 11:54 PM

If I had to potentially deal with snowy and icy roads during my winter commute, I would definitely consider a trike. A reverse trike offers two front braking wheels and it will not slip out from under you.

Oldgunner · 01-24-2017, 06:43 AM

I was considering using a stripped trike such as a Viking, for a hunting rig. With it, I could travel decent trails for half the year...while packing a rifle case and some gear.
Are those kits where they place two extra wheels on the back, outward of the drive wheel any good, either on or off the road? Do they have some suspension to allow for surface irregularities?

Irish · 01-24-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldgunner

I was considering using a stripped trike such as a Viking, for a hunting rig. With it, I could travel decent trails for half the year...while packing a rifle case and some gear.
Are those kits where they place two extra wheels on the back, outward of the drive wheel any good, either on or off the road? Do they have some suspension to allow for surface irregularities?

The kit on mine uses the shocks that are originally on the bike. The kit just bolts onto the original bike. Just don't do like I did (1st Trike) & out of habit , try to lean in the 1st curve! Yes! You can use them off road.

Irish

DisillusionedPrepper · 01-24-2017, 10:38 PM

Keep your feet ON THE PEGS no matter what you feel.

What Irish is saying about the "lean" is completely counter intuitive as to motorcycle/bicycle riding.
Think about this... When you were a child (in the stoner age) a tricycle. You turn the bars left, and went left.
Bikes steer right to go left. (I'll prove that in a second).
So the natural action of us bike riders is to steer left to turn left? WRONG!!! You will wind up in the trees!

Personally I will not ride a trike because I will hurt myself. I don't want to un-learn what I believe I learned in 40 or so years of two wheeling.

Here's a link that proves out what I mean (meen?)

I realize you won't be drifting corners. It's more about slow trail riding.
Remember when you rode a tricycle as a kid, and that will make you a trike rider.
I barely remember breakfast so I don't ride trikes.

One other thing... Don't put your foot on the ground. You'll run it over.

Edit:
I mean NO disrespect to Irish or any advice he offers here. What I do mean is that trikes are completely, and wholly different than bikes.I also understand that most everyone that reads this thread may be aware of what I posted BUT I simply wanted to post the other side of this coin.
Respect!!!

Oldgunner · 01-24-2017, 10:55 PM

So, you wouldn't recommend a fellow have both a bike and trike at the same time? That is the two rear wheels type trike..

DisillusionedPrepper · 01-24-2017, 11:30 PM

No dude. Not at all.

My opinion on the subject is that "I" can not ride a trike. My brothers can, and do still ride those Honda trikes that were banned.
I have tried to ride them but they are counter intuitive to what I feel in my body. I tried to ride them fast, and slow but I always wound up hitting what I was trying to avoid.

Like my brothers, and Irish can attest.... there is a market for trikes of all sorts. I am just not in that demographic. (i wish I knew a smiley for failure)

rks · 01-31-2017, 09:44 AM

Although it isn't what you'd call a trike, and it's engine displaces a bit more than 150cc....I do have a three wheel vehicle that I totally enjoy. They are a 'horse of a different color', and must be ridden/driven more conservatively. Because of the added weight, and wind resistance, their performance will always be less than a 2 wheeler with the same power plant.

At 69 years old, I'm not ready to give up my 2 motorcycles, or my scooter, but, if I live long enough, the day will come, when I'm physically unable to handle the BMW's. Then the 3 wheeler will become my eveyday ride.

bandito2 · 02-01-2017, 06:22 PM

Piaggio MP3 is a tilting 3 wheeler (2F1R) that rides like a conventional 2 wheeled bike. When going slow, it can be locked to stay upright without putting your feet down... So, no feet down when going slow or stopped at lights. Once moving above a certain speed, it automatically unlocks and can tilt normally again. From reports/reviews, it has really good stopping qualities with those 2 wheels up front.
Make no mistake though, it can be tipped over when riding.

DisillusionedPrepper · 02-01-2017, 08:35 PM

Piaggio MP3

10k for a woods bike OR 300.00 for a woods bike... Hmmmm?
I like the tennis balls better. They have a much fuzzier texture than Pepsi.

Just my opinion. (I get free tennis balls for life from that commercial)

Anyone need some tennis balls?

Irish · 05-26-2017, 03:50 PM

DP is correct! A lot of old habits die hard. For example , I burned my leg badly by forgetting that you don't have to put your feet down! I'm Diabetic & I burned right thru my pants , socks , etc & never felt it because of my Neuropothy. Luckily (?) I'm a disabled Vet & they did 5 skin grafts at NO cost to me (checking civilian cost , that would have cost $7000 apiece.) Even swap (?) Fine if you want to be a junk yard & carry shrapnel in your hip forever!

Irish

01-24-2017, 10:38 PM	#8
DisillusionedPrepper Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 109	Keep your feet ON THE PEGS no matter what you feel. What Irish is saying about the "lean" is completely counter intuitive as to motorcycle/bicycle riding. Think about this... When you were a child (in the stoner age) a tricycle. You turn the bars left, and went left. Bikes steer right to go left. (I'll prove that in a second). So the natural action of us bike riders is to steer left to turn left? WRONG!!! You will wind up in the trees! Personally I will not ride a trike because I will hurt myself. I don't want to un-learn what I believe I learned in 40 or so years of two wheeling. Here's a link that proves out what I mean (meen?) I realize you won't be drifting corners. It's more about slow trail riding. Remember when you rode a tricycle as a kid, and that will make you a trike rider. I barely remember breakfast so I don't ride trikes. One other thing... Don't put your foot on the ground. You'll run it over. Edit: I mean NO disrespect to Irish or any advice he offers here. What I do mean is that trikes are completely, and wholly different than bikes.I also understand that most everyone that reads this thread may be aware of what I posted BUT I simply wanted to post the other side of this coin. Respect!!! __________________ To explain my "User name"... I thought Hill' had this in the basket. Obviously she can't do anything right. It's OK tho... Dear Season is coming bitches!!!
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01-31-2017, 09:44 AM	#11
rks Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Western New York Posts: 454	Although it isn't what you'd call a trike, and it's engine displaces a bit more than 150cc....I do have a three wheel vehicle that I totally enjoy. They are a 'horse of a different color', and must be ridden/driven more conservatively. Because of the added weight, and wind resistance, their performance will always be less than a 2 wheeler with the same power plant. At 69 years old, I'm not ready to give up my 2 motorcycles, or my scooter, but, if I live long enough, the day will come, when I'm physically unable to handle the BMW's. Then the 3 wheeler will become my eveyday ride. __________________ 2011 Jonway 150cc..16,109 breakdown free miles, and counting
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02-01-2017, 06:22 PM	#12
bandito2 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southeast Mchigan Posts: 169	Piaggio MP3 is a tilting 3 wheeler (2F1R) that rides like a conventional 2 wheeled bike. When going slow, it can be locked to stay upright without putting your feet down... So, no feet down when going slow or stopped at lights. Once moving above a certain speed, it automatically unlocks and can tilt normally again. From reports/reviews, it has really good stopping qualities with those 2 wheels up front. Make no mistake though, it can be tipped over when riding. __________________ Southeast Michigan Dark Side Rider 4 Honda Reflex scooters & a Big Ruckus Originator of the "Darkside" Honda Reflex. "Yeah dude, that IS a car tire there on the back of my scooter." Sometimes I'm so far outside of the box, the Hubble telescope can't find me
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02-01-2017, 08:35 PM	#13
DisillusionedPrepper Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 109	Piaggio MP3 10k for a woods bike OR 300.00 for a woods bike... Hmmmm? I like the tennis balls better. They have a much fuzzier texture than Pepsi. Just my opinion. (I get free tennis balls for life from that commercial) Anyone need some tennis balls? __________________ To explain my "User name"... I thought Hill' had this in the basket. Obviously she can't do anything right. It's OK tho... Dear Season is coming bitches!!!
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01-24-2017, 06:43 AM	#6
Oldgunner Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Cattaraugus county in rural NY State Posts: 59	I was considering using a stripped trike such as a Viking, for a hunting rig. With it, I could travel decent trails for half the year...while packing a rifle case and some gear. Are those kits where they place two extra wheels on the back, outward of the drive wheel any good, either on or off the road? Do they have some suspension to allow for surface irregularities?
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01-24-2017, 10:55 PM	#9
Oldgunner Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Cattaraugus county in rural NY State Posts: 59	So, you wouldn't recommend a fellow have both a bike and trike at the same time? That is the two rear wheels type trike..
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05-26-2017, 03:50 PM	#14
Irish Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 738	DP is correct! A lot of old habits die hard. For example , I burned my leg badly by forgetting that you don't have to put your feet down! I'm Diabetic & I burned right thru my pants , socks , etc & never felt it because of my Neuropothy. Luckily (?) I'm a disabled Vet & they did 5 skin grafts at NO cost to me (checking civilian cost , that would have cost $7000 apiece.) Even swap (?) Fine if you want to be a junk yard & carry shrapnel in your hip forever! Irish
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