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kz1000st · 04-07-2015, 05:26 PM

At least I hope so in the end. I spend many hours searching through Craigslist for bargains. A couple of weeks ago I saw an ad for a 2010 Kymco Like 50cc for $300. I was skeptical so I passed over it thinking, "That was a $2200 scooter when new, it must be a mistake." It lingered for almost three weeks so I e-mailed the owner and she responded that it was still for sale. I just picked it up. It quit on her and she had "Mechanics" telling her it would cost a bundle to fix so she just wanted to unload it. My gain. The mechanics said, "I don't even know where to get parts for it." Sound familiar China scoot owners?

I don't know what's up but I'll find out and then have to decide whether to keep it or flip it. Right now I'm pretty pleased and can't wait to dig into it. For $300 I'm not sweating it. If I fail the engine is worth that much. It's Ivory White and a two stroke. I finally got a Craigslist bargain.

**Admin** · 04-07-2015, 06:41 PM

Awesome, congrats! I love finding good deals. I always seem to make out like a bandit on CL.

thumper650 · 04-07-2015, 07:11 PM

That's awesome!
I have a Made in China Kymco and it's been great.
I love the way the Kymco Like looks, I was considering the 200I, but I'll be moving and not needing another scooter for while.
You got a deal, even if it needs a rebuild, which I bet it doesn't.
Keep us updated.

rks · 04-08-2015, 07:16 AM

Sounds like a steal to me.

I had to google it to get a look at one.....wow, they are very easy on the eyes, and I even like the ivory color....it would make a good looking stable-mate for my ivory cruisers.

Good find... like previously stated, keep us updated. I feel the fix will be something really simple.

novaraptor · 04-08-2015, 10:09 AM

That's the way you get great deals.. when you know how to fix things life gets better.. Congrats...

kz1000st · 04-14-2015, 12:26 PM

First observations so far. For all of you with Chinese scooters. Be very happy. Kymco is out of their mind. Taking the plastics off is darn near impossible. To remove some of the screws for the side plastics I would have to do major surgery. I'm so disgusted. No solenoid, they use a starter relay. The starter motor is under the engine, not on top. It has lights, horn, directionals but nothing around the motor is alive. I even get power to the starter relay but when I pull the relay and try jumping the wires I get nothing. I get a weak spark when I hook up my battery charger but it won't kick start. I'm in it to win it but so far this scooter is totally alien to me. It was built like it was never supposed to break so it's hard as heck to work around. Obviously it was meant for a dealer to work on at ridiculous shop rates, not Joe Average Citizen.

Firehawk989 · 04-15-2015, 02:14 AM

Had an experience like this when I bought a Hyosung Sense off CL for $200. Taking the plastics off was easy, but the seat bucket area had a panel welded over it which made working on the engine a huge PITA!

Fortunately my Yamaha is very easy to work on as well, just like the Chinese bike I started with.

Anyway, I would try a new battery first, or test it with a jump from your car. Next is to start looking into the wiring and/or the starter relay, but I would be surprised if the wiring was the issue on a kymco.

kz1000st · 04-15-2015, 05:47 AM

I just put a new battery in it. Same problem. Hit the starter button and it just clicks at the starter relay. I tried jumping the power wires in the starter relay plug but got nothing. Kicking it over gives me a weak spark but that might be an engine speed-no power to the system problem. I'll keep digging.

I just may try the jump from the car trick. Maybe a bigger battery hooked up might reveal something.

kz1000st · 05-08-2015, 07:21 PM

Further update:

I haven't been very enthusiastic about working this thing. After numerous tests I've discovered the starter motor is burned out. I couldn't get it to spin until I removed it and jumped it on batteries. On the stock battery...nothing. On a 10 amp battery.....nothing. Off my car battery it spun but immediately got hot. A new one is $70 plus shipping. I had it spin at one point but it didn't engage. Some day soon I'll pull the variator cover to see if the starter gear inside is shot. On the parts page I found instead of giving me a price it said, "Call for price" Code for, "Are you sitting down?"

Better yet. The VIN number starts with "L" designating a Chinese build. Chinese built and they charged $2200 for this thing???!!! Plus all reports give it a 30 mph top speed. Can you say "Hoax"?

scooter · 05-08-2015, 07:54 PM

I just bought a Majesty 400 for a smoking deal. But there's a Reflex in the paper for a grand I'm really eyeballing! My wife will be PISSED when I have 5 sitting in the garage. Interested to see how this turns out for you.

cheapeto · 05-09-2015, 08:29 AM

I thought all of that stuff went on in the early days of 2000 to 2007 or so. I really thought you found a diamond in a chunk of coal.

scooter · 05-13-2015, 07:59 PM

I'll assume you're speaking of the Reflex because of the dates. It's an 05 Reflex with only 3900 miles and new tires. 1000 asking and maybe get him down to 800 because it's red....... Opinions vary but that's a good deal around these parts.

Everyone around here in "military USA" is trying to scam the new recruits and get something for nothing. I told a kid at work about it and he got it for 650 bucks because the coolant sensor was leaking. He fixed it in the parking lot yesterday with some Teflon tape. The dude just wanted it out of his garage. Good deal......Yes. He still doesn't get my parking spot under the overhand on the sidewalk though. That's because I'm the boss. HAHA

kz1000st · 01-25-2016, 07:15 PM

OK. Here's my report on the final repairs. The Snowmobile/ATV shop I took it to after losing interest in fixing it myself installed a 72cc BBK on the scooter, a new stator and some other incidentals after finding a scoured piston and barrel. Final cost $663.00. Which would have been worse if I took it to a bonafide Kymco shop with stratospheric hourly rates.

So an $80 starter motor and $90 stator later on top of the $300 original investment rockets the cost to over $1000. I can hear it now, "Yes, but unlike a Chinese POS this scooter will last." Not so, China scooter haters. It will last only if the next owner doesn't flog on it like the last and takes good care of it with regular maintenance unlike the first owner who beat it to death in 2,000 miles.

Which is about what you can say about a Chinese scooter. Care for it and don't abuse it and the 50cc China scoot will last as long as many other similar sized scooters. Bintelli and a few other China scoot sellers have customers topping 20,000 miles with ease.

wheelbender6 · 01-25-2016, 08:24 PM

I saw a Linhai 260 on craigslist for $200this week. If it has a title, It may be worth the trouble to revive it.

novaraptor · 01-26-2016, 03:08 PM

Thanks for the update, KZ. Sorry it wasn't the excellent deal that it originally looked like. My latest "deal" was just an ok one. In mid November, I found a 2006 Majesty for $1200.00. Sounds like a steal, except that it had over 48,000 miles on it. Talked to the guy and he had bought it used about 4 years ago for a 120mi a day round trip work commute, all freeway. He didn't want to put the milage on his Suzuki crotch rocket. His job ended so he no longer needed the Maj. Since he used it to commute only, he kept the engine and drive system up. Not so much on the looks. So, the price was good enough considering. Two days after I bought it, I recovered the seat. Then I replaced the tail light plastic, cause it was cracked and missing a piece. Had to use rubbing compound on the windshield to remove a couple of years of bugs and grit. Just replaced the gaskets in the exhaust system. Small stuff, and still need to clean and touch up paint, but so far, so good..

04-08-2015, 07:16 AM	#4
rks Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Western New York Posts: 454	Sounds like a steal to me. I had to google it to get a look at one.....wow, they are very easy on the eyes, and I even like the ivory color....it would make a good looking stable-mate for my ivory cruisers. Good find... like previously stated, keep us updated. I feel the fix will be something really simple. __________________ 2011 Jonway 150cc..16,109 breakdown free miles, and counting
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04-14-2015, 12:26 PM	#6
kz1000st Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,135	First observations so far. For all of you with Chinese scooters. Be very happy. Kymco is out of their mind. Taking the plastics off is darn near impossible. To remove some of the screws for the side plastics I would have to do major surgery. I'm so disgusted. No solenoid, they use a starter relay. The starter motor is under the engine, not on top. It has lights, horn, directionals but nothing around the motor is alive. I even get power to the starter relay but when I pull the relay and try jumping the wires I get nothing. I get a weak spark when I hook up my battery charger but it won't kick start. I'm in it to win it but so far this scooter is totally alien to me. It was built like it was never supposed to break so it's hard as heck to work around. Obviously it was meant for a dealer to work on at ridiculous shop rates, not Joe Average Citizen. __________________ 2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting.
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04-15-2015, 02:14 AM	#7
Firehawk989 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 198	Had an experience like this when I bought a Hyosung Sense off CL for $200. Taking the plastics off was easy, but the seat bucket area had a panel welded over it which made working on the engine a huge PITA! Fortunately my Yamaha is very easy to work on as well, just like the Chinese bike I started with. Anyway, I would try a new battery first, or test it with a jump from your car. Next is to start looking into the wiring and/or the starter relay, but I would be surprised if the wiring was the issue on a kymco. __________________ 2005 Yamaha BWS (Zuma) "Garfield" TP Black Trophy 70cc, Giannelli Reverse Pipe, 5g Dr. Pulley Sliders, Delta Clutch with Yellow Springs and Yellow Contra, Malossi Torque Controller, Naraku R-Vent Bell, NCY Adjustable Secondary Sliding Sheave, CF Reeds, Kege Analog Tach, Dual Headlight Mod, N.A. Rear Fender Delete, OEM Short Windshield.
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04-15-2015, 05:47 AM	#8
kz1000st Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,135	I just put a new battery in it. Same problem. Hit the starter button and it just clicks at the starter relay. I tried jumping the power wires in the starter relay plug but got nothing. Kicking it over gives me a weak spark but that might be an engine speed-no power to the system problem. I'll keep digging. I just may try the jump from the car trick. Maybe a bigger battery hooked up might reveal something. __________________ 2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting.
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05-08-2015, 07:21 PM	#9
kz1000st Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,135	Further update: I haven't been very enthusiastic about working this thing. After numerous tests I've discovered the starter motor is burned out. I couldn't get it to spin until I removed it and jumped it on batteries. On the stock battery...nothing. On a 10 amp battery.....nothing. Off my car battery it spun but immediately got hot. A new one is $70 plus shipping. I had it spin at one point but it didn't engage. Some day soon I'll pull the variator cover to see if the starter gear inside is shot. On the parts page I found instead of giving me a price it said, "Call for price" Code for, "Are you sitting down?" Better yet. The VIN number starts with "L" designating a Chinese build. Chinese built and they charged $2200 for this thing???!!! Plus all reports give it a 30 mph top speed. Can you say "Hoax"? __________________ 2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting.
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04-07-2015, 06:41 PM	#2
Admin Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 994	Awesome, congrats! I love finding good deals. I always seem to make out like a bandit on CL.
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05-08-2015, 07:54 PM	#10
scooter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 105	I just bought a Majesty 400 for a smoking deal. But there's a Reflex in the paper for a grand I'm really eyeballing! My wife will be PISSED when I have 5 sitting in the garage. Interested to see how this turns out for you.
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05-09-2015, 08:29 AM	#11
cheapeto Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: York PA Posts: 339	I thought all of that stuff went on in the early days of 2000 to 2007 or so. I really thought you found a diamond in a chunk of coal. __________________ Ride For Kids.org
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05-13-2015, 07:59 PM	#12
scooter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 105	I'll assume you're speaking of the Reflex because of the dates. It's an 05 Reflex with only 3900 miles and new tires. 1000 asking and maybe get him down to 800 because it's red....... Opinions vary but that's a good deal around these parts. Everyone around here in "military USA" is trying to scam the new recruits and get something for nothing. I told a kid at work about it and he got it for 650 bucks because the coolant sensor was leaking. He fixed it in the parking lot yesterday with some Teflon tape. The dude just wanted it out of his garage. Good deal......Yes. He still doesn't get my parking spot under the overhand on the sidewalk though. That's because I'm the boss. HAHA
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01-25-2016, 07:15 PM	#13
kz1000st Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,135	OK. Here's my report on the final repairs. The Snowmobile/ATV shop I took it to after losing interest in fixing it myself installed a 72cc BBK on the scooter, a new stator and some other incidentals after finding a scoured piston and barrel. Final cost $663.00. Which would have been worse if I took it to a bonafide Kymco shop with stratospheric hourly rates. So an $80 starter motor and $90 stator later on top of the $300 original investment rockets the cost to over $1000. I can hear it now, "Yes, but unlike a Chinese POS this scooter will last." Not so, China scooter haters. It will last only if the next owner doesn't flog on it like the last and takes good care of it with regular maintenance unlike the first owner who beat it to death in 2,000 miles. Which is about what you can say about a Chinese scooter. Care for it and don't abuse it and the 50cc China scoot will last as long as many other similar sized scooters. Bintelli and a few other China scoot sellers have customers topping 20,000 miles with ease. __________________ 2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 10,434 miles 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,023 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles twowheeler.yolasite.com/ That's 30,049 China Scootin miles and Counting.
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01-25-2016, 08:24 PM	#14
wheelbender6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston area Posts: 945	I saw a Linhai 260 on craigslist for $200this week. If it has a title, It may be worth the trouble to revive it. __________________ "Beer never broke my heart" - Luke Combs
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01-26-2016, 03:08 PM	#15
novaraptor Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 105	Thanks for the update, KZ. Sorry it wasn't the excellent deal that it originally looked like. My latest "deal" was just an ok one. In mid November, I found a 2006 Majesty for $1200.00. Sounds like a steal, except that it had over 48,000 miles on it. Talked to the guy and he had bought it used about 4 years ago for a 120mi a day round trip work commute, all freeway. He didn't want to put the milage on his Suzuki crotch rocket. His job ended so he no longer needed the Maj. Since he used it to commute only, he kept the engine and drive system up. Not so much on the looks. So, the price was good enough considering. Two days after I bought it, I recovered the seat. Then I replaced the tail light plastic, cause it was cracked and missing a piece. Had to use rubbing compound on the windshield to remove a couple of years of bugs and grit. Just replaced the gaskets in the exhaust system. Small stuff, and still need to clean and touch up paint, but so far, so good..
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